Pictured above is our first generation K100 turbo done more than 20 years ago. Later versions had "split" intercoolers. These were the first of the watercooled BMWs and the worl's first intercooled and fuel injected turbo bikes. With larger turbos the went on to set some speed records both at the strip and in top speed venues like El Mirage and Bonneville. Somewhere around 200 of these were produced. Prior to these we focused on the air cooled R series for which hundreds of kits were made.

Many Years Later

Owner writes: "Dear RB Racing; I am contacting you about a 85 K100 turbo bike I acquired a few years ago. I loved it then and love it now. I have done my best to find out its history just because it is so darn fast. When I acquired it I thought it was built by Luftmeister. I have done a lot of research on the bike and now I know the truth. I hate the fact I have Luftmeister on the exhaust and even on the harness tape. I had no idea you were behind all the R and D and your company never was acknowledged in 94 at El Mirage. I have gone over every thing you have done to K bike for racing, I also read how you took it all back after the runs. So now here is where I am confused. What do I have; I have seen pictures of the bike that did the runs parked right next to the R Bike. I really think that the bike I have is the one that did the runs and if it is how did it manage to get out. I know if it had all the original K bike equipment put back on it, the average person really would not even be able to tell their is a lion under that stock faring. I new when I purchased it someone had put a lot of money and research to get that kind of power out of a 998cc bike.
The first day I had it, I made a trip to Reno from Carson. I was going through Washoe valley and decided to rool it on a little and see how it ran. I was doing about 70 and drooped down to third gear and rolled on to the throttle.the boost came on so hard it was kind of a spiritual feeling. I let her go to 160 or so in fourth gear running close to 10,000 rpm and shifted to fith and let it slow down. The boost was around 12 lbs.
I have taken the bike on some long rides riding very aggressive with boost running 3 to 6 lbs for up a couple of hours. I have worn out Metz 4 tires in a few hundred miles. I know Matt had nothing to do with the build, I would have blown it up long ago.
All in all I just want to thank you and your team and shame on Matt.
Here are a couple of Pics.

I do have questions to ask and I know only you guys would have the answers; If it is what I think it is,rest assured it will end up at its rightful home at RB.  Thanx  Mike"

 Response from RB Racing: No it is not the race bike. It is the second generation K100 Turbo. The first generation kits were done with intercoolers that were not "split" but these blocked the radiator which could cause overheating in very hot environments. The bike pictured has the split intercooler.

The inlet air cleaner "can" cover pictured above was done to allow the bike to be run in wet weather. It separated the ingested water from the small air cleaner. It was made for a short while but was very complex to make and little appreciated and since we weren't paid for it so we stopped making them after 20 or so were made.

The race bike had a very large custom nose-mounted intercooler a larger RHB6 Turbo and our RSR fuel injection system. The race bike started out as a stock K100 but was butchered up for race use only rendering it useless for street use and went through three fairings and many changes. In the end we redid the bike at our expense after Luftmeister kept doing more and more stupid modifications....We tested it once, loaded it in the race trailer... and Matt Capri made one 206 mph pass at El Mirage and we removed our electronics as we were never going to get paid for our work. 312 hp.

Kit #003 30 Years later

Circa 1985. No split intercooler. Still running. We do not support these. Ancient history.

15 years with Matt Capri or Why the scorpion said “"I'm a scorpion; it's my nature."

The year was 1981 and we were turbocharging Harleys, Hondas, Suzukis and Kawasakis...A phone call came from Matthew A. Capri who asked us if we could turbocharge a BMW air cooled twin. We only knew of Matt who was running Luftmeister as someone who made copies of Vetter Fairings i.e. “Luftmeister” and sold accessories like luggage racks. We checked around and found out Matt had talked American Turbo Pak (long since defunct) out of a prototype R100 Turbo kit they had fabbed up with a way too large Rajay turbocharger and a Bendix-Zenith carburetor. It did not work as it would only boost at high loads and rpms. We were warned to watch our back by several people.

We informed Matt we knew of his previous dealings with ATP and made a couple of handshake deals...We would design two kits, one for a race bike and one for production. They would be sold as “Luftmeister” and RB Racing would stay out of the picture save the design and production side of the equation.

The Race kit went on Rob North framed R100 monoshock and the production kit went on a standard R100, the race version with an IHI RHB6 turbo, and the production version with a small IHI RH05 turbo. The production version had to be purchased in quantities at a price we would set and the Race Turbo would be used for promotion and drag racing at no charge to Luftmeister unless it was sold. The race kit ran one 10 second quarter mile and was retired. The production R100 kits went into production with Luftmeister buying the IHI turbos, handling the carburetion with a Keihin snowmobile unit and, finally, packaging of the components. Several hundred were sold.

We specifically made the deal that Luftmeister keep RB Racing’s name out of the picture. As long as we got paid it was in our interest not to be associated with Matt’s dealings.

The cost of the components to include the turbo and specific turbocharger plumbing on the Race Turbo were $1,100.00 not including and labor or finishing costs. A handshake deal was that RB Racing was to be repaid the $1,100.00 component cost if the race kit was sold. We found out much later that Matt had sold the parts to Fred Wiley of Big Twin in Boise Idaho. We went to collect our $1,100.00 only to be told by Matt that “as he recollected...he was only to pay us if he sold the bike and since the bike was in his garage at home he wasn’t going to pay us”. Either small claims court or go back and jack up the prices for anything he bought from us. We jacked up the prices. He passed them on.

Matt asked us to copy a 2 into 1 R100 exhaust he had borrowed from a vendor, Alphabet if we remember correctly, and we refused. We ended up designing a better 2-1 exhaust for the R100‘s and R65 models and, later on, exhausts for both 3 and 4 cylinder K series BMWs. Matt made two attempts to have our exhausts copied to “cut us out”. Both times we found out about it and simply showed him a newer design we kept in the wings and then doubled his price for the annoyance. Anyone can copy something. It’s quite a different matter to keep coming up with new items. We always kept the “next big thing” under wraps. We always do.

The 1985 arrival of the watercooled K100’s killed the airhead turbo market and we designed a 5 psi RHB52 IHI turbo kit for the new K100RS. The Bosch mass sensing LE Jetronic and it’s four fuel injectors, which totaled only about 50 lbs/hr was only good for about 100hp with the turbo. An honest 100 hp was enough to outrun a Z-1 Kawasaki at the time. It was the first fuel injected, intercooled, motorcycle turbo in the world. Giving a K100 another 30+ horsepower was a pretty big deal.

In August of 1985 RB Racing went to the Bonneville Salt Flats with a couple of Suzukis and a Harley Shovelhead and there was Motorrad of St Louis with a K100 Turbo sidecar with an incredibly crude turbo designed by Reeves Callaway. Since the kit we had just designed was extremely elegant we were patting ourselves on the back until we found Reeves had charged $15,000.00 and we had just done our excellent work gratis. Reeves had to use an electric diaphragm pump to scavenge the turbo oil whereas we had perfected and internal scavenge routed through the oil pan. Being clever and smart doesn’t always pay the bills. Reeves got out of the “kit” business early on and moved on to Chevrolets.

Luftmeister began selling the K100 kits and we made two changes: (1) An incredibly complex stainless steel header or exhaust manifold replaced the mild steel one and (2)the intercooler was split in the middle to allow more air to get to the radiator as K100 cooling was marginal in hot weather.

Matt complicated matters by trying to raise the K100 boost levels when the stock system would only support 100hp....Four 12.5 lb/hr injectors. You do the math. His solution was to get a rising rate fuel pressure regulator from Corky Bell and ask us to copy it. Since it was an insanely stupid idea in the first place we declined. With about 8 square inches of diaphragm it causes fuel pressure to rise exponentially with boost which has two consequences: (1) The fuel pressure can only be correct at one intersect, not before or after and (2) The stock fuel pump and the injectors were not designed for exponential pressures. Matt attempted to race a K100 in this format with him twiddling an aquarium bleed off valve as the fuel pressure rose off the charts to 130 psi.... Destroyed parts, just don’t tell the customers about it.

We countered with a 5th injector set up that allowed the boost to be raised to 125 hp levels and subsequently made an eight injector setup controlled by our RSR AIC400 Additional Injector Controller that took the horsepower up to 180 @ 15 psi. After making a few of these we found out that Matt had contracted an ex-employee of MSD Ignitions to make a pseudo copy of our RSR AIC400. Fortunately, or unfortunately, all the copies failed and that put an end to to the AIC business at Luftmeister.

Desperate to set some speed record Matt went Bonneville with a K100 and a K75 and failed. ..still twiddling aquarium valves and rising rate regulators. Total failures. Next was to get involved with Mike Corbin (Corbin) and later on with Charley Perethian (Parabellum) trying to get free custom made K100 race fairings from both. More disasters, this time at El Mirage. No records. Blown engines. Evil handling with poorly designed fairings the rider could not see out of. New grand ideas about sleeving K100’s, putting in longer rods and putting in “big bore kits”. Never mind that there is no room between the bores for this and it was another grand idea that never should have come up in the first place. We washed our hands...our name wasn’t there, but it sure wasn’t going anywhere but down.

We told Matt the oem K100 fuel pump was not suitable for high horsepower and his solution was to put on a second pump in series after the oem in-tank pump. That does not work and is beyond stupid, especially when you get the bright idea to wire the pump in with some thin gauge aluminum wire you had laying around. Poof!

We finally got fed up with all the failures, which Matt always proclaimed to the world to be supreme successes with “ unbelievable power”. His mantra was “if you don’t blow up your stuff you aren’t trying hard enough”. Of course you are supposed to accomplish something which he hadn’t. We had him get rid of any “helpers” and had him strip his K100 to ground zero, get rid of all the crap he and others had added, repair the engine, and we would build a new race turbo setup with:

A larger turbo.
A special stainless race only header (took 5 days to make).
A twice as large intercooler.
Our RSR EFI Closed Loop 8 injector system with a custom plenum chamber.
Our programming.
And,of course, one large fuel pump.

We made one completely illegal 130 mph test of the bike on Long Beach streets, blowing two red lights, told Matt to load it up, without him having ridden it, for the SCTA El Mirage meet. First pass... 206 mph and a record. 309 hp from 980cc.

We then removed our equipment from the K100 as we had proved our point and we had long since learned we would never be paid for it.

We moved on. After not getting paid for a R1100RS turbo kit, back in the 1993-1994 time, we waited more than a decade to design a new one. Then there was the Triumph Daytona Turbo system we ended up losing a lot of money on. As Luftmeister imploded as a business we went to a “If you show up with cash we might do something” mode. On the way out the door of our business Matt grabbed a motorcycle helmet he had given us six months earlier as a present for a younger rider...saying, "You aren't using this right now and I can sell it". Never saw him again. Don’t want to. He left a trail of destruction.

Matt had picture of himself standing by the El Mirage 206 mph record setting K100 and told us people needed “heroes” and that he was one. Not for us. We gave him all the rope we had...from 1981 to 1995. As the scorpion said in the fable as the turtle asked him why he has stung him...”It’s in my nature”.

We have posted detailed information on our new RSR Water Injection systems for the K1200 series as well as for other BMW Turbos . Check out our new calculator that we use to design your water injection system.

Expansion

RB Racing has opened a second large R&D facility for prototyping, installations and development. No phones, no TV's, no lookie-loos, to interrupt progress. One radio for mind-numbing motivational background noise. Custom installations of turbo systems, engines, and advanced product development can proceed in a more relaxed atmosphere. Interesting developments are in the works. Pure stealth. No numbers, no names, no windows, no photos. Pictured on the left above is the new wax pattern for our one-piece stainless steel BoostMaster wastegate valve body. Pictured below are the finished castings ready for machining.

New Shipment of Custom BMW Intercoolers

These are the cores that we used on our first intercooled BMWs back in 1985. Unfortunately when we checked on their availability earlier in the year no one made this particular size anymore, so we had to have a custom run of them made. It was a long wait but it means we can start production of the R and K series turbos once again. The models that we had not done like the later K1200RS/LT models with the Telelever suspension have been schedule for prototyping. Kit prices for the various kits range from US$3,995.00 to $4,500.00 to $6,000.00 depending on options , number of additional injectors etc. R1100/1200 series use two additional injectors. K100 series use either 1 or 4 additional injectors. K1/K1100/K1200 series use 4 additional injectors. All additional fueling is controlled by our AIC400 additional injector controllers. All kits, except the K1200RS / LT are intercooled. All kits feature positive oil scavenge systems and sophisticated inlet breather/blow-off valves.

Turbo Tech

If you want to enjoy some history we suggest you purchase the three volume set of Smokey Yunick's chronicles of his long racing career and life. There aren't may original thinkers around and most of them don't do a damn thing. Smokey was different and a genuine legend in American motorsport history. If you just happened on the scene we suggest you buy his books. It's the most entertaining and best investment you'll ever make. Smokey pulled 1000hp out of a destroked 200 cubic inch Chevy at Indy over 30 years ago. If you like technical matters and a bit of history these are the books to buy. Engines, whether they are small block Chevrolets or Bavarian twins all sing the same song.

We get asked all the time about what should be done to prepare your BMW for turbocharging...Well, this depends on what your goals are. Before we get into this we should give you a brief rundown on what you already have. If your bike was a Honda it would be superbly engineered and every part would be optimized for performance and reliability at the oem designed rated horsepower...double that figure and the rods, clutches and pistons are past their limits. BMW does things a bit differently. They build it to run for 300 hours non stop at 2.5 to 3 times the rated horsepower, then they cut things by 2/3 and sell it to you. The rods, pistons, cranks and base engine drivetrains are overly engineered on most of the models. The exception to this is the early air cooled models which started out as low horsepower, low rpm engines that weren't tested at 150 to 200 hp. Early K100's are practically bulletproof as they start out with 70 hp and at 125hp turbocharged they will run forever. We pumped them out to 312hp and never had a crankshaft problem although at rpms approaching 12000 they would float their valves and break camshafts.

Equal Fuel Distribution

Pictured on the left is a Grinnall inlet plenum for a Motonic series injection system. To the right is an inlet plenum for a K100 LE Jetronic system. Both feature four additional injectors controlled by our RSR AIC400. Semi-finished, prior to polishing and chroming.

In the case of the K100 turbo we employ four additional injectors that are matched to the horsepower potential of our custom turbos. Whether you plan to run 5, 8, or 15...or even 22 psi we have you covered. This is the only way to insure perfect fuel distribution. At the time you order you turbo kit we ask that you send us your oem injectors for cleaning and balancing. In the case of the K100's we stay with the oem stock injectors. For the K12 series we have injector upgrades that improve driveability and provide better and safer performance.

All inlet plenums feature integral velocity stacks and individual port injector for all fuel enrichment.

Pans That Suck

Customer pans sent to RB Racing for oil scavenge modifications featuring o-ring boss AN8 fittings for AN8 stainless steel braided lines. Positive oil scavenging "dry-sumps" your turbo, leaving no residual oil in the drain line. No matter what the circumstances i.e. shut-off, heavy braking, full boost acceleration or high G cornering loads, the turbo will drain properly. There won't be any tell-tale blue smoke foretelling of turbo bearing demise or "coking" of the oil resulting in spun exhaust shaft seals. The two pans on the right were born 17 years apart...the black one from a 2002 K1200RS and the other from a 1985 K100RS. BMW sure is getting some mileage out of that tooling. Along the way the oil pickups went from steel to plastic...the German metal workers must love extrusion machinery. When you go turbo on your K bike, you have to send us your pan with the filter cover in place. If you have the metal pickup send it also. We spent over two months in 2001 revising our oil scavenge system so we are intimately familiar with 5mm Allen wrenches and the feel of BMW oil.

All of your BMWs employ Mahle pressure cast pistons that have excellent oil control and tightly controlled expansion with shapes designed to go 200,000 miles with little fanfare. Unless you are racing and want to go to a forged piston that will deform before it will break, you would be crazy to take out the Mahle pistons. The slipper style pistons on the late model "oilheads" are particularly pretty. They look like a 962 Porsche piston.

The exception to this rule, and there are always exceptions to rules, is the late model K11/K12 series which are more highly stressed. Early K100's were rated at about 70 horsepower whereas the K1200RS is at 130hp. The engines are very similar in architecture and we can tell you that lower compression forged pistons are necesssary on these bikes. We are designing pistons for all the newer models, both K and R series, to include the older K100's. No, we didn't make 312hp and go 206mph with the stock pistons.

All late model BMWs, including the later series of air cooled R bikes employ Nikasil lined cylinders. These are Formula One items as they provide the best heat transfer as well as wear and oil control parameters. Even in NASCAR which mandates iron blocks all the teams have gone to coatings on the iron cylinders...that should tell you something. Nikasil provides the best surface and heat equation for turbocharging.

Windage, or internal oil control relative to the crankshaft is an area often forgotten. Oil will wrap itself around your crank and kill your horsepower. Late model BMWs although they are wet sump designs get a bit tricky in this regard by keeping the sump below the crank, thus cutting down on windage losses. Oh, they still don't give you and oversquare engine with a 90mm bore that will rev to 18,000 rpm, but you can dream.

Power is what this is all about. In general all the RB Racing turbo kits are designed to give about a 50% increase in power at 8 psi of manifold pressure. At this level they will run forever although at 8 psi you accelerate quite quickly and you don't stay in any gear too long and run out of gearing quickly. We tell customers to turn their Dial A Boost pneumatic controllers to 8 psi and short shift through the gears for normal operation, Turning the controller "off" will let the wastegate go to its minimum setting of 5 psi, which will remind you that the turbo is there. Check out our K1200RS video to see what 5 psi of acceleration will do for you.

Higher boost levels: Everyone wants to go hunting now and again. To those of you who cannot resist the lure of dialing up the power as you ride we offer the following advice. All RB Racing turbo kits can be briefly run to 12 to 15 psi of boost on pump gas...although we caution you that 12 psi is the limit we recommend. For excursions in the 15 to 22 psi range we suggest increasing the octane via racing gasoline, colder spark plugs like NGK Racing plugs, and careful attention to engine temperatures. Your cooling system will not sustain 250+ horsepower very long. We held a K100 on a Superflow Dyno for 2 1/2 minutes @ 15 psi (275 hp) and blew the coolant right out of the oveflow tank! There is no free lunch in this game. When we went for records we chilled the intercoolers, ran blower gas and racing spark plugs.

RSR Boost Compression Ratio Calculator

Click on the title above to go to our RSR Boost Compression Ratio Calculator. This allows you to run scenarios of how boost affects your effective compression ratio as modified by altitude considerations. It will give you a good idea as to why turbos go so fast and also how to plan your motor for your particular circumstances. Knowledge is power.

RSR BMW Advanced Dynamic Compression Calculator

If you know the specifications on your motor, such as the K1200RS described below, you can see what the effects of bore, stroke, static compression, rod length, cam timing, boost, and altitude are on your motor. Although you may not be able to change some of the variables, you will at least be able to see how they interact and how you can use this information to your advantage. Knowledge is power. Pictured above are our new K1200 series forged turbo pistons that come with an improved ring set and special wrist pins. The piston are sold in sets and are 7% lighter than the stock components. The picture on the right shows the 2mm pins you need to "pin" the second ring into the "up" position. For more info on this go to our K1200 Tech Page.

First Generation K1200RS Turbo: Before

When you strip off the bodywork you are greeted by what is perhaps the most tightly packaged, complicated, collection of castings, forgings and molded plastic you'll ever likely encounter in denuding any modern sportbike. At this point the bike has already been instrumented to measure stock parameters and the fuel sysyem and oil system have been thoroughly modified to accept our Turbo components. Don't look for the turbo because it isn't in it's home yet. Stay tuned as we will be posting additional pictures of the bike being assembled as well as the extensive instrumentation that comes with the package. Capable of more than twice the horsepower of a ZX-12! You might be limited in your final drive ratio but you will get there faster than anything else you might encounter...and gears can be changed!

12-16-2000: Turbo oil system testing completed with new scavenge system (first major revision since 1985). Scavenge ratios under cold and hot conditions from idle to 9000 rpm have been documented and main system remains unaffected. Four different turbos were tested to find the optimum solution. Zero leaks or capillary bleed down means 100,000 miles plus of trouble free turbo operation. Design work begins on header, turbo, and ancillary components.

Jan 2002-Mar 2004: Testing continues with customers.

First Generation K1200RS Turbo: After, With Bags

We designed the turbo muffler portion to have two inches of clearance between the cannister and the bags...and the final exit extends to the fender/ license plate. There won't be any cooking of your gear with the air gaps we have provided.

First Generation K1200RS Turbo: After, Without Bags

All major components are in place. No alteration of the stock parts is necessary except for the oil pan. Oil pans need to be sent to RB Racing for machining and TIG welding of the oil scavenge port, The braided stainless AN8 scavenge line is visible beneath the 4-2-1 header. The EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) probe is visible on cylinder number three.

On Steroids, Abs no Flab

A lot of information if you have a roadmap. Ceramic coated 4-2-1 Header. Red BoostMaster wastegate visible. Black ceramic coated cannister muffler. K&N Air Cleaner cover / splashguard. Silicone coupler hoses on chrome connector pipes leading from turbo to chromed inlet plenum with 4 additional injectors and Inlet Blowoff / Breather valve. At front edge of rear tire is brass valve regulating water injection. Water injection tank, hard anodized black, beneath the license plate. 350hp turbo hidden behind the transmission. Braided oil scavenge line headed back to the oil pan. All this fits under the fairing with no compromises in ground clearance or engine serviceability. Everything long-term corrosion protected. Completely docile day to day operation in a package that moves the K1200 up the food chain.

Bend Over and Cough

The turbo kit has no affect on ground clearance. Everything is tucked inside the "centerstand / sidestand / footpeg envelope" even figuring in suspension compression. Are those nibs still on the edge of your tires? Compatible with the optional wider rear rims and tires.

First Generation Water Injection for K1200 Series

K1200RS series bikes have about double the hp of the earlier and slightly smaller K100 series four cylinder machines. Because of this higher state of tune we need to add a form of detonation control to these bikes. The hard anodized water tank rests in stealth mode beneath the license plate with its knurled filler cap easily accessible on the right. Put in a 50/50 water alcohol mix for those higher boost blitzes. Does not use any water below 5 psi and very little till you up the boost past 8 psi. If you have to up the boost with your pneumatic Dial a Boost controller, the percentage of water injected will scale up giving you a safe power boost through lowered inlet temperatures. Two minutes and fifty seconds of 15 psi pressures, which is just long enough for the long course at Bonneville. Six minutes of water at 8 psi of boost, which is a long, long time considering the brief time we spend in boost going through the gears. Just sneaking into boost at 6 psi the tank will provide eight minutes of inlet charge cooling. Get out your calculators.

First Generation K1200RS Turbo Kit: The Main Parts

Update July 2003: Final testing completed, production parts finalized. Pictured above are earlier parts for the K1200RS Turbo Kit. Newer Items use a non-riveted cannisted from our new Black Hole exhausts. Mechanical modifications to the engine's fuel control system have been completed and tested. OEM primary injector fuel rail replaced by hard anodized high flow part. Modifications to the Bosch electronics and final testing of the RSR AIC400 programming to maximum potential (275hp @ 15 psi) are completed. There are no compromises in ground clearance, lean angles, fuel economy, or driveability. Center and side stands are completely unaffected. Oil filter and drain access are also unaffected. Chrome heat shield on turbo exit. Header pipes are ceramic coated. Connector pipes from the turbo to the inlet plenum are chromed, The turbo itself receives a black protective coating.

K1200RS Turbo Pod: Red Hat, Black Dress

You know what they used to teach you in Boy Scouts..."Red and Yellow Kill a Fellow...Red and Black Venom Lack". Well in this case the Coral snake and this turbo kit are on opposite side of the fence. This Red and Black Turbo Pod puts out enough air to kill about anything you might come up against. This is the same turbo we ran 206mph with on a 2 Valve K100 and the same turbo we used on our Suzuki GSXR1100's that hold every record at Bonneville and El Mirage (1989 to present). The BoostMaster wastegate dumps directly into the tailpipe for the ultimate in sophistication (no wastegate noise). The Turbo Pod is mounted directly to the frame, independent of the exhaust manifold and tail section. The exhaust housings are now silver ceramic coated instead of the black shown above.

First Generation BMW K1200RS/LT Plenum Chamber

Complicated puppy! BMW sure didn't make our life easy on this one. This is the third and final design that we executed. The first two designs used smaller volume plenums in order to squeeze in a small intercooler but this, in turn, precluded the use of four additional injectors as there was only room for two larger ones. Testing showed we were trying to do too much in too little space so we opted for better breathing and fuel control. The four additional injectors are controlled by the RSR AIC400 Additional Injector Controller which is programmed to meter fuel up to 350hp. The inlet runners have integral radiused velocity stacks to boost torque. The four additional injectors are aimed straight down these velocity stacks Formula 1 style. We felt the larger inlet plenum plus the additional accuracy provided by four injectors (instead of two larger ones) was a better compromise. Our attempts to squeeze in an intercooler were very expensive but in the end the core size would not support the horsepower potential and added additional airflow complications.

In case you are wondering, the Black Billet Gizmo poised on center stage is a dual function inlet breather and compressor blow-off valve. Under vacuum conditions the engine breathes here bypassing the turbo. Under boost when you close the throttle blades, as when shifting, or just backing off, the pressure releases here preventing a surge back to the turbo. This keeps the turbo speeds up and prevents damage to the turbo. We've been building these in several variations for over 15 years but like the abominable snowman they have never been seen before. The high capacity secondary injector fuel rail is hard anodized. To keep things symmetrical and avoid flow problems we also supply a hard anodized high capacity fuel rail for your stock injectors.

Second Generation BMW K1200RS/LT Plenum Chamber

The development continues. High output testing validated the need for sophisticated water injection. Running 15 to 18 psi and 255 to 275 horsepower there is no free lunch. We always ran water injection on our 200 mph street bikes...the first street bikes and certainly the first BMWs to go over 200 mph. The problem with water injection is that water is nasty stuff to keep around. Three months of intense R&D and we have a long term sophisticated water injection that you can use on a daily basis. This is something we are designing into all of our BMW turbo kits.

And you thought Carroll Shelby had all the Snakes!

Black mambas, king cobras, have nothing on this piece of sculpture! BMW did not want this K1200RS turbocharged! We were absolutely determined to do it anyway and this is the result. The turbo has a special corrosion resistant coating so the elements won't eat it up. The inlet system is sealed and has a 300+ hp K&N filter (housing removed to see the filter). All this serpentine meandering requires a pile of production fixtures the size of the bike itself...but the result is a completely functional turbo system that does not intrude on the rider in any manner, nor does it require any major surgery or nasty compromises.

Newest parts move the air cleaner assembly to the right side of the bike and the turbo receives a silver ceramic coating.

Turbo Header K1200RS/LT

Four into two into one configuration. Ceramic coated inside and out to prevent heat losses and for long term durability. OEM four wire oxygen sensor for closed loop operation is retained. We built three variations of this header and this was the winner. It provided the best compromise between surface area versus velocity versus broad band power delivery. The protrusion on cylinder number three is the port for the Type K Thermocouple that provides inputs to the EGT (exhaust gas temperature) gauge. The turbo header will never fatigue or break as it features a slip joint and does not support the turbo. New configurations have helped bring in boost as low as 1800 rpm.

Instrument Rated

Standard instrumentation on the K1200 series is shown above: Vacuum / Boost Gauge (30 InHg to 20 PSI); RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge. EGT to 1600Deg F.(optional). You generally want to see the tach and the boost gauge and the boost gauge and the RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge in pairs. All gauges are lighted for nightime operation and the RSR Air Fuel Ratio gauge is visible in direct sunlight and has an automatic dimmer for night operation. There is a warning light, an ultra bright l.e.d. on the RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge that activates when you hit 8 psi of boost. At 8 psi you need to be reminded that things are getting serious, because by 9000 rpm you are closing in on 200 hp.

The EGT gauge pictured was used for initial testing. Normally the RSR Air Fuel Ratio Gauge mounts to the stock handlebar location...See our Black Hole Exhaust page.

The Dial-A-Boost is the round black knob on the left handlebar. Turn it fully clockwise and you will see 28 psi. Turned fully counterclockwise the wastegate opens at 5psi. Between these extremes are 11 turns of decisions. Pull up the dial to unlock it, turn to the desired boost level and push the knob down to lock it...all while you are riding. A mark on the dial gives you a visual reference of the number of turns. In case you are wondering, 8psi will push you past 200 mph if you regear.

The water / alcohol injection system kicks in after 5 psi.

Bags Packed, Ready to Go

There is not even a hint of what this bike is capable of. No neon lights. No loud pipes. Just a big old heavy BMW sport touring bike with enough horsepower to deal with those things we face like Porsche 996 Turbos, Z06 Corvettes, and various pesky Sportbikes. Sit up and enjoy the view. Convince Seven of Nine to join you on a tour of the Delta Quadrant.

Customer Testing Continues on K1200RS

Everytime we build, refine and test things work fine. When you turn things loose in the world all sorts of new things crop up. Customer testing continues with slightly revised fuel maps in our RSR AIC400 that controls the four additional injectors. Further tests are scheduled for a slightlty different collector and a minor change in the plenum shape. We just want to try the changes to see what happens. Bike has exhibited excellent driving characteristics with a large increase in torque, pulling cleanly to redline in all gears. Testing continues at 5, 8 and 15 psi. In warm weather a slight increase in heat was felt around the left ankle...a small airfoil / vortex tab may clear this up. Cold weather testing is taking place in Nevada along with higher elevation testing...the bike needs open spaces to stretch its legs.

July 2003 Update K1200RS/LT

The K1200LT makes the RS model seem like a minibike. Lots of complicated bodywork and a sea of underlying brackets forming a Maginot line against turbocharging. As you can see (or can't see) our efforts got the work done with little external visual clues.

Clean Installation, No Compromises

We have completed extended testing of the K1200RS and K1200LT models and are making some changes based on these tests. We were able to design the K1200RS without any modifications to the bodywork. On The K1200LT the lower lefthand (silver) panel has to be trimmed and the underlying tubular support bar has to be modified. Both bikes require modification of the oil pans and the installation of our special scavenge system. Testing of the two bikes showed we had to have a slighly different scavenging system for the LT model as the lower front of the engine castings are not the same as on the oil cooler equipped RS model. Initial testing on both the RS and LT was with a small intercooler (there is no room for a large capacity intercooler) and two extra injectors. At the completion of the testing we felt the trade off of having an intercooler that was half the required size and two additional injectors was not as good a solution as having room for four injectors and a larger inlet plenum and the corresponding gain in fuel delivery accuracy.

High Static Compression, Overlap, Cams and Pistons

Cold cranking pressures on the RS and LT are very high due to the 10.8:1 pistons on the LT, and 11.5:1 on the RS. Camshafts on the RS have about .050" more lift than do the ones on the LT model. If you look at BMW's published cam timing specs on both models, the cams have zero to negative overlap (only 2 degrees on the RS and -4 degrees on the LT!) Some overlap is required to cool the exhaust valve and to allow the engine to deal with the higher volumes of airflow. Lobe centers on the LT model are spread further apart, shortening the overlap period and thus keeping the cold cranking pressures similar to the RS model. BMW publishes their figures at 3mm (.118 inches) of valve lift which is more than twice the industry standard of .050 inches lift for both opening and closing events.

When we measure the K1200RS using the standard industry figure of .050 inches for closing and opening events the picture changes somewhat. Instead of two degrees of overlap, the figure changes to 27 degrees of overlap. The duration on the cams goes up from 210 degrees to 234 degrees and the new lobe centers sit at approximately 103 degrees on both inlet and exhaust. These are not ideal figures for turbos but they are livable. We would like to see more duration which would allow us to push the lobe centers out somewhat without losing overlap. We are working on camshafts to do exactly that.

We also have had forged turbo pistons made that will replace the stock pressure cast pistons for those of you who want to run elevated (15 to 24 psi) boost levels. These pistons will feature pinned rings for the same oil control as on the stock bikes. This will allow higher boost with increased safety. If you are thinking of worst case scenarios, we have arranged for Nikasil cylinder repair should the unforseen happen...You won't have to worry about completely replacing the block! In case you were wondering about the pistons we used in the 206mph, 312hp, 980cc K100's...they were forged, not stock...and no, we did not run stock cams or stock timing. Pistons are available in standard, higher (non-turbo applications) and lower compression models.

Panels off, Turbo, cannister and connector pipe shown

Both bikes' driveability is stock and ground clearance is completely unaffected. Serviceabilty is uncompromised and clearance between the exhaust cannister and the luggage on both models is better than stock. The chrome cover on the LT exhaust can be reused (see top photo). Noise levels are slightly above stock and decidedly pleasant at touring speeds. These are very complicated motorcycles, and although this can be an advantage, it has made engineering the turbocharger systems quite a challenge. There will be two turbo choices for both models ranging from 200 to 300 plus horsepower. Normally the LT model is set for a maximum of 180hp at 15 psi with a smaller turbo whereas the RS model has the larger turbo rated at 255 hp at 15 psi.

Instrumentation for both models is standard with EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature), RSR Air Fuel Ratio, and Vacuum/Boost. On the K1200LT these three gauges mount on the center dash "pod" just above the stereo controls. The turbo occupies the area formerly occupied by the exhaust system / catalytic converter. The turbo itself is supported by a triangulated steel mount independent from the 4 into 2 into one exhaust header. The RB Racing Boost Guard wastegate (hidden behind the passenger footrest) is dash adjustable and dumps into the cannister exhaust effectively muffling the wastegate as it controls the exhaust pressure. We have used both chrome and ceramic finishes...there may be some choices in this area. The exhaust pictured on the LT is chromed with a brushed aluminum cannister. Production parts are ceramic coated with a black cannister (see photos above).

No, that's not an exhaust system!

With the turbocharger underneath the bike it was quite a problem to fit an air cleaner assembly. On the K1200RS we managed to get the air cleaner on the left side of the bike into a cavity above the exhaust cannister. On the K1200LT model there is no room to do this so we created a right side air cleaner assembly. The filter is the same K&N filter we use on our 350hp Suzukis and 425hp Kawasaki turbos. On both the RS and LT models both center and side stands function normally.

K1200LT Weak Point

Right now the clutch is the weak link. We are working on heavy duty clutches that will need to be installed with the turbo kit. We are hearing of short clutch life in stock bikes and our own testing has shown the clutch will slip quite eaily if it is not fully engaged under low boost shifts.

K100 2 Valve Models

Turbos are available for the early K100 series. We will be doing a few of these at RB Racing to update oiling systems, wastegates and instrumentation. These kits feature the later design split intercooler and stainless steel 4-1 turbo manifold. Fuel control is via our RSR AIC400 additional injector controller. Kits are available for fifth injector operation with the oem air box or with four additional injectors located in a new inlet plenum. Power is rated at 180 hp @ 15 psi.

K1000 / K1100 4 Valve Models

Turbos for the first of the 4 valve inline fours are available in two models: 180 hp @ 15 psi and 255 hp @ 15 psi. These kits are receiving newer, updated oil scavenge systems, more instrumentation and revised Boost Master wastegates.

R100 Series Air Cooled Twins

We made a lot of the draw through carbureted kits in the early 80's. This is something we do not wish to revisit as technology has progressed since then. A complete review of these early bikes is being undertaken and we feel that some new innovative designs will give life to the older boxers. Maybe you remember the Futuro.

R1100R / RS / RT / S / SL / GS / 1150R and 1200C

A complete revamping of our "Oilhead" series of turbo systems is about finished. R1100RT turbos are in production and the R1100S model is in final testing . Turbos and intercoolers for these models are in stock. Lots of parts. Complex critters. R1100RT Turbo part pictured above.

Previous R1100RS turbos were quite spectacular, beating full race (privateer) Ducatis in Magazine sponsored impromptu road races at Willow Springs as well as running 10.6 second quarter miles at 132mph. We have higher goals for the newer models. Photos of these models (GS/RT/R/C) will be posted along with detailed specifications. 1200C models will follow. We have newer turbos than we used in 1993.

We redesigned these systems six times to account for RT fairings, R1100S raised tail models, twice because of changes in turbos, and three times because we ran into a couple of idiots who neglected to pay for things. Life does get complicated.

For those working on R1100RT/RS; R850/1100GS/1100R bikes a pdf workshop manual.

Rocket Fuel

When Honda was spending 500 millions dollars a year on their V6 Formula 1 Turbo motors they ran a mixture containing 84% Toluene (114 Octane). It has excellent anti-detonation properties and increases your octane rating. If you are running 92 octane pump gasoline and you add this stuff, your octane rating will be changed by the formula:

[(Quarts Gas x 92) + (Quarts Toluene x 114)] / (Quarts Gasoline + Quarts Toluene).

For example, if you add one quart Toluene to four gallons of gasoline, your Octane will increase one point from 92 to 93. Add two quarts to four gallons and you get an Octane rating of 100. For you high boost junkies this is something to ponder. You can buy the product in hardware stores. Xylene has a higher flashpoint (less volatile) and has and octane rating of 117.

Denatured alcohol or methanol can be added in a 50/50 mix in our water injection systems.

Quicktime Video of K1200RS Turbo

We have posted a Quicktime video of the K1200RS Turbo on our Cinema page. There is no lack of power even at the minimum wastegate setting of 5 psi.

Customers

Harley Customer: "How much is it"..."Here's the money"...."Thanks it works great!"

BMW Customer: "How much does it weigh?".... "Will it void my warranty? "If I bring my bike to you, will you install it for free while I wait ?"... "I don't want to pay shipping"..."Do you have any used ones around that I can try?". "My dealer charges too much money, will you do it for less?".

Not all, but it happens often enough. Some people go through life happy and participate, others just...whatever.

After more than 29 years of turbocharging motorcycles we have come to the conclusion that people, for the most part, will never understand what it is that goes into preparing turbocharger systems. If it is something that you are interested in we will be glad to take this 39 years of experience and thousands of hours of time and build some very nice parts. If you are not prepared to pay our price or, if you have any special conditions, simply do not call us in the first place. We have met a few people that we inadvertently "let in the door" who suddenly forgot everything we said and started trying to run the show.

It is not going to happen. Like the batter at the plate who gets hit by the first two pitches, we aren't going to give the pitcher a third chance. If you own your own business you will understand. If you are a 9-5 person with a serious hobby you will never understand.

You meet the nicest people

 

Built a turbo for a “friend” of a friend.. He had to go on a trip with it. He shows up late and tells you he’ll pay you when he gets back. Feeling cooperative you send him on his way. Two weeks later you get a call. He says the turbo “burned up” and he’s 2000 miles away. You airfreight him a replacement turbo. You never see him again.

 

Customer shows up to pick up his turbo and informs you he is not going to pay for it because he is now your “salesman” and you should be so ever grateful for the business he is going to bring you. You tell him the price just went up $200.00. He protests and you tell him if he opens his mouth one more time the price goes up another hundred. Six hundred dollars later beyond the original price he pays cash. You see him periodically over the next four or five years. He is now your best friend.

 

You set up a remote oil system on a race bike and the customer burns up two turbos,  which you replace for free. You later find out he killed the turbos in the burnout when he never turned on the electric oil feed pump. He also runs off with an $1100.00 custom wheel you lent him for a race. He sells the bike and never pays you. Oh yeah, he worked in law enforcement.

 

You build a turbo for a guy and he up and leaves the country after giving you a deposit. 18 months later he shows up and asks for his turbo. You tell him to come in two weeks and pick up the parts. He calls constantly threatening you with all sorts of dire things. . We tell him to bring cash. He does. He then says nothing fits. Turns out he pieced together a bike out of a frame that was designed for another engine. Flea market (stolen) parts. We spend 12 hours cutting and adapting things to make it work for no charge. He goes away then comes back and says it “won’t start”. We look at his throttle bodies and they are not synched. We put light cable pressure on them and the bike starts instantly....he asks why and we tell him “the bike does not like him”. He goes away. He calls up threatening us with all sorts of dire consequences if we don’t give him something for free that he hasn’t paid for. He insults a female at our business. We tell him he can have the part for free if he disappears and never contacts us again. He agrees. We send the part. Two weeks later he calls us up and tells us he has set a speed record. We ask him if he understands what the word “never” means. He goes on a multi-year effort to tell everyone the parts we made were his design and coordinates a disinformation campaign against our business.

 

You build a turbo kit and another firm says they will buy 100 of them. You have one year of R&D and gear up to make the systems. They order one, then two, then 25...They neglect to pay you the full amount. The orders stop and there are excuses. You get a call from a fabricator you know who says “I think I have your stuff here that I’m supposed to copy”. You drive over and look. Sure enough it’s yours. You tell him to go ahead and copy it. You go lock the customer in his office and rip everything off his desk and get your check. They fail and call you up two years later saying they shouldn’t have ripped you off and now they want to work with you again. You say sure and go pick up a bike they provide. You disassemble the bike in a hundred pieces and tell them to come pick it up.

 

You work with the same customer for 15 years and build him two specialized race turbos. One deal was if the kit was sold RB Racing got “x” dollars. As long as it was raced or not sold no payment was required. Client sold the kit. We went collect. Client said the deal, as ”he remembered” was if he sold “the bike” he would pay us and since he sold just the kit he wasn’t going to pay us since the bike was not sold. We increased our prices 50% that day on items he was buying. He just passed it on. We got the message and removed the other parts from a 206 mph bike that also were not paid for.

 

 

Customer wanted us to do something for free which involved more than 30 days of labor (turbo related). We refused unless he agreed to pay. He paid a lawyer at least 5x what we asked for to attempt to force us to do the work for free. We never did and he got zip except being stuck with his lawyer’s fees. Much aggravation.

 

You prototype out a turbo on a new bike and give the customer a 50% discount.  You call him up so he can fly in and pick it up. As soon as you put down the phone the fax activates and a four page document comes through informing you that he is not going to pay for the items as “You are going to make money selling them”. You call him back and tell him the bike is now on the street with the keys in it and you are “going home”. He paid. He also declined to pay you the $30,000.00 in development costs you incurred. Seems he really did not want to be in a money losing business.

 

 

Customer who owns a motorcycle shop brings a bike by for you to look at. You agree to see if the turbo can be done. You give him a price if it turns out the parts can be made. You make the parts and tell him to pick up the bike and the parts. He now wants them installed which was not in the quote and on top of this it turns out there is no money because he doesn’t own the bike and the “owner” is out of the country. The bike has no plates. No one pays. Owner of bike shows up with a tattooed bodyguard and wants his “turbo”. You tell the owner and the tattooed bodyguard to get bent. We finally get 1/2 of the money for the parts and give them 1/2 of the parts and the bike is sold to some third party who also won‘t pay the balance. Bye bye on a flatbed.

 

Customer burns up a turbo on a bike we did not build nor make the turbo for. We rebuild the turbo and put on a new fuel pump. Customer refuses to pay. He takes us to small claims court and the Judge asks him why since "he owes RB Racing money and why is he there wasting the court’s time”. Nine years later, and a $300.00 bill not paid, we gave the bike to a friend who parted it out. Thirteen years later the guy’s son shows up asking for the bike.

 

We build a turbo for a customer and offer him a 50% discount as it was a new prototype. We design the parts, the fixtures, bend 50 sets of the parts and take two sets through final finishing. Customer flies in, approves the design, then refuses to pay unless he “has the bike for a time and is completely happy”. We take the parts off the bike and it sits. He has other bikes and flies in from out of state three times, each time to inform us of his “conditions”. We had made two complete systems, and spent three months of design time and had no payment from customer. Customer then calls and offers to "loan us $10,000.00" so we can finish his system. He tells us he will send us $10,000.00, we will finish his bike, return the $10,000.00 and then he will fly in and if he is completely happy he will pay us the original estimate. We tell him to get bent. We move the business to a larger facility which costs a lot of money and ask the customer to make payment. He refuses but says he will come down and help us find a new location if we finish his bike. We tell him to get bent again. Customer flies in again and we beat 25% out of him after three hours of yelling. Time passes and three and one half years later we reveive a check representing the balance of the deal. Customer calls and asks if he had paid the amount in the first place would he have had his "turbo". We answer in the affirmative. In the meantime the turbos have become obsolete and we scrap the parts...all 50 sets. For the newer turbos we lasercut all new turbo flanges, bend new parts, make several dozen new fixtures and go through four redesigns to insure most of the parts fit various years and models. We go out and buy five BMWs to not have to deal with people like this customer. We design, finish and install new parts on the bike. We spend tens of thousands of dollars in labor, parts, and design time. We ask the customer to send us an updated registration so we can start and run the bike without risk of being towed by the police. He agrees then sends us an email saying he won't. We just go back to work. The last time we checked we thought it was our business. He finally sends in the registration months later and we're busy on other things. He could wait. We finish the bike adding $2,000.00 worth of the latest upgrades, put the bike on trailer just before we had to leave for Bonneville, and ship it to him, leaving one hose disconnected and instructions on how to connect it. He says he'll send us the $2,000.00. He then takes the bike to a shop who knows nothing about the bike and asks them to make the bike run. They call us and we ask them if they are getting paid for working on the bike which they reply in the affirmative. We tell them as soon as we get our $2,000.00 that the honorable gentleman promised we'd be glad to give advice. We never hear from them nor do we get the $2,000.00. At least he is out of our hair.

 

 

A customer says he’s going to build his own turbo and wants us to order him a turbo. He chooses the wrong one. We order it anyway. One year later he can’t get it done by conning his “friend” to do the work for free so he asks it to build it “his way”. We do. He then sees our design and wants it changed to "our way". We did. He also took it upon himself to take down the license plate numbers of three out of state bikes we had in our shop. He threw a fit when he saw we were working on bikes like his but not his exclusively. He tracked these people down and told them RB Racing was tearing up their bikes doing wheelies and loaning them to customers (the bikes were never operated) for the sole purpose of spite. The people came in unannounced and pulled their bikes and tried to sue us for not finishing their bikes even though they had not paid. They also wanted additional work done for free and even told us they would take our fixtures back to their state and build our parts for us. They announced they were going to “own” our business.They got nothing from us. We were out eight weeks labor and fabrication. We let the original customer ride his bike around the block and then disabled it as he was moving to Tennessee. He was amazed how “perfect” it was. We told him he could have the missing parts when he owned up to what he had done and pay for any losses we had. He was a coward and did nothing.  He sold the bike to a friend of ours who paid us for the missing parts, getting a $17,000.00 motorcycle for $6,000.00.The bike ran 210 mph on it’s first pass at Maxton. The seller was there to see “his Bike”. Mike Chestnut.

 

Customer brings us a bike but neglects to pay the agreed amount. He attempts to sue us to do the work without paying the amount we agreed on. We spend several thousand dollars for an attorney and the customer gets nothing and is charged a large cancellation fee.

 

Customer does not pay us for a turbocharger job but wants to get his bike. We show up on a Saturday and the customer is there with a police car. We ask the police what the deal was and they said the guy wanted to pick up his bike but he was afraid we might harm him. We show the police the invoice that was not paid and the Police go after the guy for calling in a false report. We let the guy take the bike anyway having him sign a statement he was to send us “X” dollars per month. The Police witnessed the statement. We got one money order via express mail from the guy for $25.00. The guy lost job after job and we simply wrote the whole affair off.

 

We built a Turbo for a customer who gave us a $1,200 deposit on a $5,000.00 item. He sold the pink to a third party for $7,000.00 who came to pick up “his turbo” that we had finished. We let him drive it around as we had already dealt with the customer and then we took the bike back for safekeeping. The third party then told us the bike was being sold to some rich fool for $18,000.00 and would we deliver it. Not unless we got paid. The third party decided to take the bike back stock. We removed the turbo parts. He could not win “big” so he did not want to pay us the balance. We decided to also take back some parts from him that he had set numerous records with that were not paid for. He came back years later and asked what it would take to get the parts back. We showed him the box and the parts and quoted him $4,500.00. He said that was “about what he thought”. We haven’t seen him since.

 

You build a BMW turbo for a customer that requires the customer do some fabrication. He sends you a picture with the oil drain line looped up in a giant “U” plus other issues that shows he absolutely has no clue. He then wants  you to buy his old bike that had been sitting dead for 5 years plus get his money back. We offer to install the kit if he brings us the bike. He doesn't. Get real.

 

A few out of 1500+ turbo systems but it’s enough.

 

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For these and a dozen other reasons you are not getting your bike in our shop. We will sell you the parts but we no longer, after 30 years of this, care about the dirty details of your life, nor do we care about your motives. You may be too weird for us. You may be just fine. Our parts are good and you can order them if you have the money. You can get them right away. They are in stock. They are the best. We are not your “Bro” and you have to realize it’s your show. We limit our involvement to people we have known for 15-20 years or more. We are not going to look over our shoulders to see if that knife you are eating your steak with is going to end up in our back. We lead. The “follow me” motto of the US Army Officer assumes with some certainty his men will follow. We’ve been there and know in that situation the mission will be done. We do not know if you will follow and we assume, for safety and peace of mind that you will not.

 

A longterm friend, a vet, needed help to go fast. We spend tens of thousands of dollars on his project and he never asks for anything. Nor do we. No questions. Everyone going the same direction. 12 years later and about $100,000.00 out of pocket and time and a 200 mph record our long term friend of 35 years tells us to gets fucked. We remove our electronics tell him the only reason he has a record is that we designed tuned and paid for everything.  Exit stage left.

 

Grow up. You are on your own journey. We have ours and we are on our path alone, have our own projects, and do not need company. Install the parts yourself if you are competent or pay a shop to do so.

 

If this is not acceptable or you do not understand our position there are others out there who will happily take your money. You can drag them along for the ride.

 

Over the years we gave a lot of people enough rope and treated them well. There seems to be about one idiot per year who shows up full of bubbling enthusiasm and a hidden agenda. For us it is a business and we limit our enthusiasm to the manufacture of the parts and to our pursuit of excellence in design and function.  Best keep your agenda and rope for others, not us.

 

Nothing personal. Just business.